Someone I trade with asked me this question today. "Why are you risking 20 to 30 pips to get 20 to 30 pips?" To some of you who step in here from time to time this may be a familiar question since it was just asked and answered a few weeks ago by someone else, somewhere else, who I and others have learned a great deal from. And, I seem to get asked this question a lot. So it made me laugh a bit and I thought I would post my answer here.
Not to take anything away from the question, because it is a good one if you're new to trading, but this question really does bug me because I think the bigger picture is being missed which is what we're really trading for - the Bigger Moves. If you're not trading for the big moves then you should be!
So, first of all, I'm never trying to get just 20 to 30 pips. I use to, but no longer. Believe me, it took some time for me to figure this out. You can have all the calculators and spread sheets in the world that show how you can be a
gazillionaire with only 10 to 20 pips a trade.....but...it's all bullshit! What these calculators and spread sheets never tell you is you
WILL have losers and maybe even a lot of them. With
ALL my trades, even scalp trades, I'm looking to profit several hundred pips. It doesn't mean I will get that every trade. But by taking the first 20 to 40 pips along the way and moving my stops I'm reducing my risk and building a cushion. I'm not really making my money on the cushion I'm creating but rather on the 35% of the trades that make the big moves. These are the moves I'm counting on.
Everyday I'm looking at what pairs have the highest probability to make the biggest moves based on patterns, support &
resistance (pivots) and
Fibonacci levels. I'm also verifying my observations with
MACD and Stochastic but mostly patterns. Especially the AB=CD,
Gartley and Butterfly patterns. As these patterns are forming I trade the AB=CD moves which make up these patterns. All the while
watching for the bigger moves. Almost all the people I trade with never hold their trades for the big moves and the big profits (you know who you are). I
believe, you must if you're going to stay and make it in this market. Just my opinion :)
I know that I will have losers, I know this, it's just a fact of trading and I prepare every trade for it with good
management and keeping my loses tight. I look at how much I can lose before I enter any order or trade. Most traders look at how much they can make and forget about how much they can lose until they have lost it. Then it's too late. I'll have trades that have small profits, maybe even most of the trades have small profits. That's
ok and the losers are
ok too. It's the big moves I'm watching and preparing for.
Now, all that being said, if you're risking more or the same as what you're looking to make, you will not be successful at trading. You must have a trading strategy that uses good risk/reward if you are going to be successful at this game. My basic strategy is to look for and find the highest probability set-ups using patterns and support & resistance with tight risk, usually between 15 to 30 pips. As my trade moves into profit I'm booking pips and moving stops.....
Booking Profit and Reducing Risk. I almost always let my final piece of the trade get stopped out. I know that by creating a cushion and moving my stop using S&R levels as the trade progresses, I have done all I could to take
advantage of the big moves when they do come. I have done my job.
The traders who are successful over time all have, and stick to a strategy that uses good risk/reward. Everyone else will either lose their money very quickly (and blame everyone else or the market) or they will be successful for a short period of time then get bit in the ass (and blame everyone else or the market) (then get divorced...hmmm).
So you see (I hope), I'm not really risking 20-30 to make 20-30. But rather risking 20-30 to make several hundred and reducing that risk along the way. It's what works for me, and others a whole lot more
successful than I at this trading thing.
Good luck. Hope that helps and answers the question.